It is law in Kentucky that the Homeland Security Office must post a plaque at the entrance to the state Emergency Operations Center with an 88-word statement that begins, "The safety and security of the Commonwealth cannot be achieved apart from reliance upon Almighty God."
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I guess it doesn't violate the separation of church and state policy because all religions have gods. But then, not everyone believes in God.
but then, its printed on our money..
and recited in our death pledge to the flag.
if this stands out even remotely to anyone... they have problems ;/
ARE YOU SHITTIN ME LINNETTE?
Just trying to get a dialogue going here.
Well I'll tell you hun. I was sort of puzzled by the meaning of what anonymous said, "if this stands out even remotely to anyone... they have problems ;/". Didn't understand what he or she meant so opted out of the discusssion.
Carol, my purpose was to convey my opinion, which if this happening with the courthouse meant anything significant to anyone, they need to look at what’s already been. It makes no sense to get upset over what is written on the courthouse, when as a country we have illustrated the connection between America and god, by printing "in god we trust" or "under god" in the flag salute...
The point= this isn’t anything new.
I don't like what it says in Kentucky. What if it said, "The safety and security of the Commonwealth cannot be achieved apart from reliance upon Almighty Allah."
OK anonymous. Thank you for the explanation. I see your point. You are right that it is nothing new (in our lifetime), but we all know the “In God We Trust” wasn’t originally on our coins, nor was the Pledge “One nation under God”. America was intentionally established as a secular government, based on the authority of "We, the People," not a god, king, or dictator. Still it NEVER ceases to amaze me when men attempt to force their way of thinking on others by legislating such laws. Just because a majority of Americans believe in God, doesn’t make it right to impose that belief on the minority who don’t.
Carol-
America IS the nation of opportunity, you know. Establishing our own such heritage, or belief in god doesn’t make our country any less "free".
Look to the rest of the world, you could point our major religions that have established themselves in the countries of continents all over the world, which is entirely legitimate. Its human nature. Money, religion, and location are what define a civilization. America isn’t an exception.
And your saying "Still it NEVER ceases to amaze me when men attempt to force their way of thinking on others by legislating such laws."
It honestly isn’t any different then the work of a pastor or priest or whatever nonsense everyone believes in. why? Because as humans that is our natural first intention, to spread our way of thinking. Separation between church and state is only what we make of it.
Linnette- i Imagine you would find somthing simmilar to that on the courthouse of a country or peoples in the middle east.
Anonymous: It IS different from the work of a pastor or priest, because a member of one of those churches can opt out. Government should not be using taxpayer money to show support of any religion. Some of those taxpayers do not believe the same way.
"Religious institutions that use government power in support of themselves and force their views on persons of other faiths, or of no faith, undermine all our civil rights. Moreover, state support of an established religion tends to make the clergy unresponsive to their own people, and leads to corruption within religion itself. Erecting the 'wall of separation between church and state,' therefore, is absolutely essential in a free society." --Thomas Jefferson
I was going to post a comment here, but was waiting for someone to clarify the issue. I mean, Kentucky Shmetucky, is this about what the state of Kentucky's doing, or about whether this is a Christian nation, or what?
Linnette- point was, that as a Christian nation it is apart of our life to see such things. Until the government makes a law REQUIREING taxpayers to attend church, say they are Christian or some other ludicrous thing you cant say that they cant "opt out". There is NOTHING to "opt out" of. It is printed on our money to show what "we" as a country stand for. The majority of this country has a semi-firm belief in god, and as such we present ourselves as a Christian nation. Now, you know that to a degree, this country shows a sense of patriotism. What I mean is, during WW2 Franklin Delano Roosevelt and then Harry Truman, both used references (essentially saying) "we ask god to protect us." or "god will watch over us."
Most people do link god and "uncle Sam" together.
Dear Anonymous, establishing YOUR personal belief in God, does not make ME or anyone less free unless you impose those values upon those who do not agree. But when you use the word "our" collectively, it sounds like you are talking about the nation as a whole. And the nation as a whole cannot speak for the individual and shouldn’t try to do so by legislating these crazy laws.
Very well said Linnette. 11:22 pm
Yeah Anonymous, just like the World Trade Center Hijackers prayed to Allah before they began their mission. You say, "Franklin Delano Roosevelt and then Harry Truman, both used references (essentially saying) "we ask god to protect us." or "god will watch over us." Guesss God was on the side of the hijackers. They prayed for a susessful mission and we prayed for protection. Maybe God didn't see the coins.
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